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Post by khazarkhum on Mar 25, 2013 17:15:12 GMT
I was both happy and appalled at the Nazgul in the Hobbit film. Hey, yay, they're there...ohhh.
But what really got to me was the entire Tomb of the Witch King speech after hey looked at the Morgul Blade. Since when is there a TOMB?
The more charitable would say The Barrows, but I think they were serious--an actual Nazgul tombs group, which Elrond says is sealed.
So someone has to go and open them and let them out. Saruman, or Sauron, or ?
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Post by Elfhild on Mar 27, 2013 1:35:11 GMT
Peter Jackson's apocryphal movie makes a few very definite alterations to the plot lines of The Hobbit and Tolkien's other books. One of the main deviations is the Azog subplot, which revives an orc which had been dead for almost 150 years and wasn't even killed by Thorin Oakenshield. Another addition of Jackson's is the entombed Nazgul subplot.
After being defeated at Fornost, the Witch-king's body was apparently dealt a mortal wound and imprisoned in a tomb somewhere. I guess that is Jackson's story anyway. I'm not sure if the tomb just happened to be at Dol Guldur, or if that's the Witch-king's spirit just chilling out in the ruins and his body is somewhere else. (Which, by the way, wouldn't have been ruins, but a fortress which had been inhabited for the past 500 years.)
Of course, the Nazgûl had really been dwelling in Minas Morgul for almost 1,000 years at the time of The Hobbit, and the Witch-king was never dealt a mortal wound. This is just Jackson's fanfiction...
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Post by Angmar on Mar 27, 2013 5:33:39 GMT
I never went to see "An Unexpected Journey." I have never been fond of Jackson's treatment of Tolkien's work. If he would just come out and say that this movie is fanfiction based on Tolkien's work, I might think better of him. What I have heard of "An Unexpected Journey" just sounds like the tired old crap he grinds out. Sooner or later I will watch it but it will probably be later.
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Post by khazarkhum on Jul 30, 2013 5:16:17 GMT
It's probably charitible to call it forgettable.
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Post by Elfhild on Aug 12, 2013 0:49:18 GMT
The whole movie was pretty meh. Jackson's attempt to wring three movies out of a relatively brief novel makes the whole thing seem thin and stretched out, like butter over too much bread. "An Unexpected Journey" just didn't have the quality of the LOTR movies.
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Post by khazarkhum on Aug 17, 2013 15:11:19 GMT
It's a naked attempt to catch lightning in a bottle twice, which ain't gonna happen. Not with this crew.
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Post by Elfhild on Aug 25, 2013 6:38:02 GMT
But a lot of fans will still eat it up like candy.
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Post by khazarkhum on Sept 24, 2013 19:32:13 GMT
Sure. Even if Jackson's tendency to excessive excess gets in the way.
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