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Post by khazarkhum on Jul 24, 2007 9:43:09 GMT
I've often wondered about a female Nazgul. I can certainly see the potential. After all, would YOU want to ge between Madonna or Hillary and a ring???
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Post by Angmar on Jul 24, 2007 23:51:28 GMT
I've often wondered about a female Nazgul. I can certainly see the potential. After all, would YOU want to ge between Madonna or Hillary and a ring??? Khazar, I for one wouldn't, but I feel I have already been there. ;D I was once in a roleplay game that had female Nazgul. One girl took her character (a total Mary Sue Nazgul) to heart and turned into a screaming, cursing fury when anyone challenged her. She said she WAS her character and God help anyone who did anything to it. (Several others and I wondered at times if she was insane.) She and several others, equally unreasonable people, finally destroyed what was once one of the best roleplays in which I had ever participated.
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Post by Agan on Jul 26, 2007 20:17:35 GMT
Oh, nazgulettes... Lilaenwen, Aiwendis and Viniglaen...I miss them... well, at least I miss the first two. Lily was a cute girl, and I liked to play Gordie. But seriously, is it even possible that Sauron's Scheme with the rings has been 100 % successful and he didn't get at least one nazgul he didn't expect and didn't want? A thief who has stolen one of the Rings from the chosen target, an intermediary who failed to deliver the ring to a target, a sweetheart who got the ring as a present from one of the chosen ones? Any one of those would become a wraith quite soon. But then we face an important problem - was it technically possible for Sauron to reutilize a ring? What would become of the first wraith? Could he be dispatched to Mandos and beyond without destroying the Ring? And if not, it means that Sauron had more than 9 nazgul... Why then didn’t he use the Nine again and again to get more ringwraiths? But if a Ring could only be used once, then Sau had to put up with girls, if he got one or two, with thieves etc. and keep what he has got. Then anything is possible, even a nazgulette. ;D
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Post by Angmar on Jul 27, 2007 7:20:18 GMT
Agan,
I believe that anything would be possible, even the wrong party getting the Ring. I think, however, that Sauron would be furious when some other had gotten the ring meant for his chosen one. I always thought the Nine were powerful rulers over important kingdoms which played a key role in Sauron's schemes. For example, the king of some influential country in the East comes under Sauron's influence with a ring. Quite possibly this king could sway his whole counry towards Sauronism (barring the usual rebels that always are around). For as long as that king had his throne, he would contribute his country's materiels and manpower to whatever cause that Sauron wanted. Then even after he was gone, his influence might remain.
This is what I see about reutilizing a ring. Candidate 1 - say someone steals his ring, or he dies BEFORE the wraith transformation is complete. His Ring is still the same Ring as it always was, has all the same powers and negative factors. Whoever holds his ring and wears it for a long time will turn into a wraith, whether he was one Sauron chose or not.
Now let's just say the "rightful owner" is out of the way, and Sauron decides to let the new owner live, for whatever reason. It could be a girl. The only major question I have here, though, is generally the Nine are referred to as "lords." That has a definite conotation of male. I see that as a problem. However, since I am very liberal in my interpretations, I can "go with the flow" and see a Nazgulette in some story.
Now to the three Nazgulettes of memory - Lilaenwen and Aiwendis were quite lovely and charming ladies, and I was more than happy to have them around. Viniglaen... what can I say? If the rules of the game had allowed it, I would have killed her, cut off her lovely delicate finger and taken the Ring, no matter that she was female. There was surely some more worthy candidate around to have a Ring than she. ;D
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Post by khazarkhum on Jul 31, 2007 19:51:04 GMT
Lord does have a male connotation, but then, so does Prince.
And Elizabeth I often referred to herself as Prince.
So...could be.
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Post by Agan on Sept 13, 2007 9:01:43 GMT
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Post by khazarkhum on Sept 15, 2007 5:08:19 GMT
That part of the sword is the cross. The religious symbolism was not lost on earlier writers. Realistically, though, it's a practical design.
I'm not 100% sure about the 'headlights' on the one picture.
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Post by Agan on Sept 15, 2007 9:43:14 GMT
I know that the upper part of the sword is called the cross. But while it is fitting for say King Arthur to hold his sword like a cross, it is a bit strange for the WK.
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Post by khazarkhum on Sept 17, 2007 0:41:33 GMT
He's really not holding it as far as I can tell--it seems more of a threat pose. He doesn't even really have hands. I think it's supposed to be atmospheric.
In any event, the way it's posed is pretty natural for a sword.
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Post by Angmar on Sept 17, 2007 1:32:52 GMT
I am not pleased with the yellow headlights, although they might be good for spotlighting deer. At least the tattered shroud look is absent. Now the one with Frodo calls to mind the woeful Ashgaz of Second Darkness, who failed every last test and was consequently dispatched. A moment of silence.... that endured... now let's party! ;D
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